Hot Stove Targetting: Matt Cain

The San Francisco Giants were able to win the 2010 World Series largely because of their tremendous starting pitching. They had a young group of electric starters, including Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Jonathan Sanchez, and Madison Bumgarner. With their 2010 victory, the Giants looked well poised to make another run at it this year. However, the team declined greatly in the second half of 2011, and San Francisco didn’t even make the playoffs. One of their problems, is that they are offensively deprived. Because of this, GM Brian Sabean may be open to trading some of their plentiful starting pitching for offensive production. The name that pops out, besides Lincecum (who is untouchable), is Matt Cain.

Positives

Since 2007, Matt Cain has been one of the top pitchers in the National League. Cain has averaged roughly 211 innings pitched, each year, since his first full year of 2006. When looking at his stats, one thing that immediately jumps out is consistency. Since 2007, Cain has either maintained or improved his BB/9, K/9, HR/9, and H/9 every single year, with only a few minor exceptions.

BB/9 K/9 HR/9 H/9
2007 3.56 7.34 0.63 7.8
2008 3.76 7.69 0.79 8.5
2009 3.02 7.07 0.91 7.6
2010 2.46 7.13 0.89 7.3
2011 2.56 7.27 0.37 7.2

Throughout Cain’s career he has kept his platoon splits very much the same. Right-handed batters have hit Cain for .228 AVG / .295 OBP / .365 SLG, while left-handed hitters are similarly hitting .227 AVG / .301 OBP / .359 SLG. One thing we’re looking for is the ability to get lefties out just as easily as right-handed batters. We all know what a short porch right field is at Yankee Stadium, so a right-hander who struggles against lefties is of little desire. Matt Cain is not that way, as evidenced by his platoon splits. And, although he has been pitching in a very pitcher-friendly ballpark, his numbers on the road are still pretty darn good: .236 AVG / .307 OBP / .376 SLG. Another great quality of Cain’s is his consistency throughout the season.

ERA WHIP K/BB
March/April 3.38 1.23 1.83
May 3.71 1.26 2.00
June 3.44 1.23 2.39
July 3.05 1.2 2.10
August 3.01 1.16 2.92
September/October 3.53 1.12 2.5

Unlike certain pitchers the Yankees have, cough-cough-A.J.-cough, Cain seems to pitch well in every single month of the season. There are no Burnett-Augusts, etc. Consistency goes a long-way in stabilizing a rotation.

As far as Cain’s repertoire goes, he has three above-average pitches: a low-nineties fastball (90-94mph), a mid-eighties slider, and an excellent change-up of about the same speed. He also features a curveball, but it is an overall lesser pitch.

FB SL CH CV
Usage 63.9 12.7 11.9 11.3
Mph 92.4 85.8 85.5 77.9
+/- 14.6 2.5 4.2 -1.

A huge factor of the Yankees’ search for starting pitching, postseason pitching. Although the sample size isn’t too big, Matt Cain has started 3 games in the postseason, all in 2010, and pitched tremendously well. He did not pitch less than 6 innings in one start, and didn’t even allow an earned run. Cain certainly came in the clutch for San Francisco in the playoffs, and that is exactly what the Yanks are looking for.

Negatives

If you were to only read the positives from above, Cain would be the perfect pitcher for the Yankees to acquire. However, unfortunately, Matt Cain is not a perfect fit for the Yanks. Earlier, I mentioned how he has been pitching in an extremely pitcher-friendly ballpark. Cain is a pitcher that would be classified as a moderate strike-out, fly-ball pitcher. Although by a slim margin, he gave up more ground-balls than fly-balls this past season, in other years, Cain has been a decisively fly-ball pitcher.

GB/FB GB% FB%
2007 0.89 39.4 44.5
2008 0.76 33.2 44
2009 0.92 38.9 42.4
2010 0.78 36.2 46.6
2011 1.07 41.7 38.9

Because Yankee Stadium is an undoubtedly hitters-ballpark, fly-ball pitchers typically don’t fare too well. However, there is such thing as pitching-to-the-score, or in this case, pitching-to-the-field. One of the reasons Cain has such a high fly-ball rate, is that he knows he can get away with giving up fly-balls. If he were traded to the Yankees, Cain would absolutely have to make adjustments.
One last disadvantage of trading for Matt Cain, is that he will be a free agent after this coming 2012 season. That means, if a trade was made, you would be giving up prospects for 1 year of Cain. You could, however, give the “Cliff Lee Argument”, that by letting him get a year’s taste of New York, you increase your chances of re-signing him in the 2012-2013 off-season.

A Fit for the Yanks?

In my honest opinion, despite the negatives I brought up above, Matt Cain would be an excellent fit for the Yankees needs. Although he may give up more home-runs, the really good pitchers adjust their game, and I believe Cain could do that. He would bring stability and consistency to the Yankees’ #2 spot. These are qualities you simply aren’t assured by other potential free agent / trade targets out there.

From the Giants’ Perspective

Matt Cain is in line to make $15MM this next year. There have been indications that the Giants will not be in the running for big-time offensive free agents like Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder. However, that could change, as the Giants will need improved offense if they want a shot at winning next year. They might possible trade Cain and his $15MM contract to someone, to clear up room to spend on Pujols or Fielder, to improve over Aubrey Huff. It makes even more sense for the Giants to trade Cain, considering his contract his up after next season.

Cost for Yanks?

The Yankees would likely have to give up a considerable amount of talent for Cain. Think somewhere in line with Cleveland’s deal for Ubaldo Jimenez. I really do not want to trade Montero unless it is for someone who is a clear #1, like King Felix, or Cliff Lee, for that matter. One possible route would be to pick up Nick Swisher’s option and include him in a trade for Cain. Carlos Beltran is a free agent, and the Giants will have to replace him. They have a very good prospect in Brandon Belt who played a good amount of left-field for them last year, so Swisher could complete their outfield along with center-fielder Andres Torres. San Francisco did lose their top pitching prospect, Zach Wheeler, trading for Beltran, so throw in Dellin Betances and you’re certainly getting somewhere. The only players I would hesitate to put in a deal for Cain would be Montero and Banuelos.

Overall, I would love for the Yankees to trade for Matt Cain, for the right price. If San Francisco asks for Jesus Montero, Manny Banuelos, or a combination of both, then I’d hang up right there. Remember, you’d only be getting a guaranteed one year of Cain. Although there are distinct disadvantages to Cain (i.e. his GB/FB rate), in my opinion he is just the reliable #2 the Yankees need.

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Mike D. is one of 2 co-founders of the Yankees Fans Unite Blog. He has been a Yankees fan for as long as he can remember, growing up in a family of huge NYY fans. His knowledge of the game comes from watching baseball his whole life, and playing third base in high school and college.

Posted on October 31, 2011, in Hot Stove, Signing & Trade Speculation and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 76 Comments.

  1. Agree whole heartily mike. Cain to the Yankees seems like the perfect fit and that the Yankees and Giants can match up well trade wise.

  2. Any ideas on extending Cain? Sure would like this guy a 1 year rental a tough pill for me. Most likely the best that will become even remotely available, so sure get him without Jesus or Manny.

  3. Mike – That’s an awesome article my man! Well put together piece and you make some good points.

    I like Cain a lot but there’s a few things that concern me:

    1) His Average FB Velocity has steadily declined since 2006 from 93.4 to career low 91.2 in 2011

    2) Always has a high SIERA. This is a metric that Cashman has said in interviews his advisors look at in evaluating pitchers. Cain has a high career 4.20 SIERA which would suggest he’s had some good fortune and he benefits from pitching in a pitcher’s park.

    3) I’m not a huge believer in FB/GB rates but because an out is an out but Cain is a heavy Fly ball pitcher as Mike mentioned although he getsmore grounders every yr. Going from spacious SF to HR-friendly NY would have to equal more HRs.

    4) Did anyone see “The Franchise” on Showtime? It followed the Giants all season. Cain came across as a really nice guy, but a quiet hick with a young family from Tennessee. Don’t know how he’d fare in NYC or if he’d be interested in a 5 yr deal.

    5) With FA lurking, it would be essentially 1 year of Cain at what cost? Assuming Montero & Banuelos are off limits, what would SF want? Just prospects won’t cut it and they’d definitely want some offense. Maybe one of Eduardo Nunez or Brett Gardner + Dellin Betances + Phil Hughes or Hector Noesi? Would you give that up for Cain? I’d jump all over Cain if they’d take Swish, Betances and some other prospects but why would they do that when they could just bring Beltran back?

    • All these guys have a wart or 2. So its really quite a crapshoot. ATM let’s make a deal. Cain, Danks, or another???? Then get Darvish, along with Nova and ??? find a landing spot for AJ and then fill in the blanks.

  4. Mike, this is one of your best posts yet, if you missed anything, I don’t know what it could be! 8)

  5. Thanks guys, I enjoy doing these kinds of articles.

    Still no power ugh!!

  6. I have POWER now!

    Sorry but I would HATE Cain on the Yankees! NO right handed fly ball pitchers EVER!

  7. Why Cain and not Bumgarner? I am sick of losing the service time game!

    • I have a feeling the Giants would rather get rid of Cain over Bumgarner.

      • Matt of course the Giants would rather trade Cain instead of Bumgarner. If I am giving up young talent like Nunez who is a young SS with 5 years service time left I want something better then a soon to be very expensive Cain.

        • i see your point. I am relieved that C.C. is signed and that we aren’t looking for players like this to be our number 1. I hope we can go for Gio on Oakland. I would trade Gardner for him. I think he would translate well to the Yankees. what do you think?

          • Matt the Yankees don’t need Gio…He is to expensive an Oakland is difficult to deal with. Think Luebke, Minor, Bumgarner and other youngsters first before more expensive pitchers. Young cost controlled pitching is where the game is heading.

  8. Damn, All six of you guys make me envious. I had journalism/history as my majors (before you guys were born), times, they have changed.
    I must say, writing action reports etc. for so many years, do not enhance ones writing skills.

    • my skills aren’t the best. with articles. The others outshine me with that. I like more of the behind the scene stuff and the other lesser articles i do.

      • Matt…
        The behind the scenes stuff is my strong suit always has been, in high school and college, also in business and the Army. The lime light is better left to someone that is more comfortable with the lime light. There are better personalities and speakers around to handle the star stuff. I would let the Capt’s or Lt.’s handle that stuff
        My college football coach said one time; “The world is thankful, God made you 5’9″ and not 6’2″!” I was always having to prove myself, so I must admit to being a bit on the aggressive side…mean as a junk-yard dog.

  9. Good evening, Ken. Hope all is well with you, and Mrs. Ken.

    • Patrick…
      My Irish counter point. How you doing guy?
      What’s your thoughts on CC resigning, good-bad?
      I guess my writing the truth (as I see it) about one of the untouchables (not only Jeter) is an egregious offense. Oh well, so be it!
      You have my e-mail, right? I’ll be reading this site so let me know if not!

  10. New name?….oldyankee77?….go girl!
    My friend, I’m OK.
    CC…..had to be done. Add a #2, and he even looks better.
    One of our family members is not doing well tonight, so must run.
    Talk soon.

  11. How about Buehrle?

  12. Just a thought, for the YFU team….if Roy Oswalt has his back, back in order….would he not be a terrific #2 ?…Backs can be corrected, and with proper care, stay that way. His last three starts in September, 2011…were great. A thought.

    • His back has been an issue the last two years so I am not sure it can be an easy fix. They Yankees did try to trade for him before so I’m sure they are interested.

  13. COMICAL ARTICLE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE GOOD TALENT TO GET GOOD TALENT. MONTERO WOULD HAVE TO BE IN DEAL. GIANTS WOULD TRADE LINCECUM BEFORE CAIN.

    • YUCK to both of them!

    • I find it comical that you clearly did not read my words that, “you would be getting somewhere.” Obviously Betances and Swisher alone wouldn’t cut it for Cain. However you would not be very far from a potential agreement. Yo’re forgetting that Cain is only under contract for one more season.

      I also find it comical that you implied that I thought the Yanks could get Cain without Montero. I simply said if they could get Cain without including Montero, then I’d be in strong favor of a trade.

      Lastly, I find it comical that you felt the need to insult the article on another site. Keep the negative thoughts to yourself, unless it is constructive criticism, which would be embraced.

  14. Granderson is who the Giants would want.

  15. As a Giants fan, I have thought that the Yankees and Giants would make a great match if the Giants decided to trade Cain. Cain is a complete stud. If it were up to me, I would give Cain a long term deal before I gave Lincecum one. Knowing that Lincecum is the “face of the franchise”, I doubt seriously that would happen.

    If the Giants were to trade Cain, they would need to get a big return. Jesus Montero would 100% have to be a part of the deal. It wouldn’t end there either. Yankees fans have to realize that Matt Cain is the longest tenured Giant, has improved every single year of his career and is still only 27 years old (a few months younger than Lincecum).

    The Giants would not trade to “free up payroll”, they would trade to get better now and for the future. I would think that Montero, Betances, Heathcott or something similar would be the asking price. I understand it is a lot to ask for, but Matt Cain means a lot to the Giants organization and is a BIG reason they are going to be in contention.

    • NEVER will would this happen! Cain is not worth it! The only pitcher I would want from the Giants is Bumgarner and Montero would not be part of any trade.

  16. You are, of course, out of your mind if you think the Giants will hand you Matt Cain. You would HAVE TO include Montero and Betances and probably some lesser SS prospect. But why would SF give up one of the best pitchers in baseball for a player (Montero) who has no clear defensive position — especially when they have one of the best young catchers in baseball.

    This is one of those over-valuing your own talent sketches that make no sense.

  17. Pete, I do not think the Giants would hand Cain to the Yankees. I guess I should have made that more clear in the article.

    I do know however that the Giants strength and surplus is starting pitching and their weakness is offense. I think the Giants fan who commented above would agree that the Giants are going to need improved offense in order to get back to the World Series.

  18. Giants don’t need to shed payroll. They are one of the big revenue clubs in a major TV market with very wealthy owners, 3 million+ attendance/year, and just off a World Series Victory. For a 27 year old All Star Workhorse pitcher – get ready to give up Granderson or Cano + a top prospect. Giants can easily afford Fielder, if they feel that he won’t balloon in weight in 5 years. They could easily afford Pujols annually. But no way would they want a 37 year old making $30m (whoops Yanks already have a player that meets that description). Giants do not need prospects (Panik, Brown, Belt, Peguero) – they need top hitting talent.

  19. I like Cain and think he’d generally be okay in the ALE. If he’s not, well it’s not like they’d be stuck with him long-term. I’m just not sure if there’s a fit between the two teams, the Giants need a SS, 2B, and CF. I suppose the Yankees could give them Gardner and Nunez, but that’s much of an improvement for SF.

  20. I find all this talk about Matt Cain SILLY! Why would the Yankees trade big time quality prospects for a 1 year pitcher who costs 15 million dollars? If they like Cain why not just wait until he’s a free agent next year?

    Cashman will not give away talent in a deal like this. The Boss has passed away so those days are gone.

  21. Mike Delfino from SF

    Hi..This is a different Mike D. A lifelong Giants fan from SF. While just about any player I’m sure can be obtained for a price, I just do not see a scenario where the Giants trade Cain. I understand all of the flyball numbers and friendly ballpark comments above and sure that’s all true but it’s the intangibles that don’t show up in the numbers….Rock sold consistency which matches his extremely calm demeanor–never gets rattled. ALWAYS a money pitcher. During the World Series run he gave up 1 run (it was unearned) in 21 postseason innings. Plus he’s younger than Lincecum…granted only a few months…but younger. Giants have made it clear their pitching is what they will build around. So long as they have the big 3 in place (Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner) they feel they will contend for a title and add pieces around them. It worked once. This year was more a product of devastating injuries…Posey, Sanchez, Sandoval (45 games missed), and even Beltran missed 2 weeks when they got…All just destroyed the heart of their lineup. Even so they only missed the wildcard by 2 or 3 games. And that was as pathetic an offense as I’ve seen ever. Can they afford all 3 in a few years–not sure, but I guarantee you they will make a much bigger effort to spend on those 3 than throw 150-200 million in Fielder’s direction. Never say never, but I think SF trading Cain just wouldn’t happen…But who knows–just one fan’s opinion. And if you’re talking Montero and others–well it behooves to listen.

  22. I’m glad to see someone outside of the West Coast represent on how good Cain is. With that having been said, the Yanks would absolutely have to bite the bullet and offer Montero just to get into negotiations for Cain. Thow Swish out of the mix b/c that’s absolutely terrible. You guys better throw in Montero at a minimum for Cain. G-men have Belt and Sandoval at the corners and Bosey behind the plate, so Monter is a luxury unless he can be moved to the outfield somewhere. As a Giants fan, I wouldn’t give up Cain up for your dick and your buddy pushing. Guy is a rock and the heart of the Giants (particularly given his J-fro). Plus Sabean (for better or for worse) has the biggest hard-on for his pitching staff. Cain isn’t moving unless somebody Godfather’s his ass.

  23. a good article but why would the giants trade a work horse pitcher for Swisher who is coming off a year where he struggled instead of resigning Beltran who hit well for them and would be at the most 5 million more? then get a pitching prospect back for an already established pitcher.
    the idea of the giants trading one of their young pitchers would be to get bats to put up runs for the same pitchers and one outfielder wouldnt do the trick.
    Montero and Nunez would fit into the giants lineup right away. Nunez at short and Montero at first where Huff is and not doing well. worst case they dont resign Beltran and have Huff or Belt play right field.
    just some thoughts, I do believe a trade like this could happen, [I also believe Lincecum isn't untouchable] but for it to happen a big bat like monteros is almost ceartinly needed

  24. I’ve been screaming this since july…swisher,bestance,nunez…it address clear needs for the giants…and if they would have explored this trade at the dead line they could have thrown in cerville…now the deal addressed their catching issue, their ss issue, and swisher would have been under control (instead of them losing out on beltran)

  25. Your crazy if you think Swisher is at all worth even a second thought for cain. Stupid Yankees fan think the baseball world should all be yours. Without montero and nunez and some minor league pitching. But I’m not the first one to tell you that. WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

  26. Like I said, obviously Swisher and Betances alone would not cut it for Cain. I said it would be a starting point, not the full deal.

    • Why are you so interested in Cain? He is not a fit on any reasonable level for NY this off season. Honestly there is no chance of this happening.

      I could understand somewhat if this would be a salary dump but it’s not and will cost real players in return. Cashman just will not do this at this time. It could have happened if the Boss was still alive but not now.

      Finally the only pitcher on the Giants that makes sense for the Yankees to target is Bumgarner.

  27. Seriously bro have u ever watched Cain pitch? He is the best fit for the Yankees this offseason a perfect #2 starter.

    • It’s not that Cain wouldn’t help the Yanks, he obviously would. He’s better than any of our starters besides CC. But there are several reasons why this would not be a good match:

      1) Cain is more valuable to SF than he’d be in NY. His FB tendencies play much better in SF than they would in YSIII. His ERA would be much closer to his career xFIP of 4.26 than of his actual ERA of 3.35.

      2) SF is a contending team with money. They are not trading Cain for prospects in a salary dump which the Yanks would be willing to do. They would want Major League ready offensive players. On NY, these attractive players would be Montero, Nunez, Gardner, Granderson and to a lesser degree Swisher. But why would NY trade any of these players for 1 year of Cain when they could make a run for him or someone better in FA next yr?

      3) An honest trade would be Montero, Betances & a lower prospet OR Nunez, Gardner and a prospect OR maybe Nunez, Swisher & Betances. All of these are closer to proper value for Cain but Why would the Yankees do this? It would rob them of their best cost-controlled young offensive future for one year of a pitcher who isn’t suited to pitch in Yankee Stadium.

      4) Yanks need to explore a Pitcher through FA or look to trade with a team that would be willing to take young prospects and possibly some salary relief/cash.

  28. I would rather have Gio over Cain though. But assuming we sign Cain long term not much not to like.

    • The last thing the Yankees need is a right handed NL fly ball pitcher that will cost over 20 million per year on a long term deal! He isn’t even on my top 30 pitchers list for the Yankees to acquire!

      Gio is a much much better choice….1000 times better!

      Just sign Wilson and move on the other things.

      • An out is an out. Yes Cain may give up a few more home runs at Yankee Stadium, but any type of pitcher: groundball, strikeout, flyball will give up more homers. You’re putting way too much emphasis on where the runs come from.

        You can’t just say to go after young controlled pitching like Luebke. Sure he may have a good upside but he is far from proven. New York is the highest leverage place to play in the MLB, so you can’t simply throw in your cards for young, unexperienced, unproven for a bigmarket team/location pitching, in order to soldify the rotation. A proven, stable #2 such as Cain is what the Yanks need.

        • I can easily say go after cost controlled young pitchers. It makes the most sense all around to do just that. Luebke or Bumgarner should be the targets. Gio has 4 years left of team control so he would be a solid choice.

          What I find so disheartening is that Nova came out of nowhere for most Yankees fans to do very well but instead of looking for another young pitcher they’re unwilling to try that again.

          I understand the desire for the Yankees to acquire a solid number 2 pitcher but Cain is not that guy an imo never will be.

  29. Swisher to SF might be a match for Jonathan Sanchez but his Walk rates scare the crap out of me! They both have 1 yr on their contract and would fill needs for both teams. But from a NY side, I don’t want Sanchez…I’m aiming higher.

    On a Garbage for garbage deal, how about AJ for Zito!

    Two of the worst contracts in baseball. AJ has 2 yrs @ $33M left and Zito has 2 yrs @ $46M. SF would have to kick in a lot of cash but maybe a change of scenery would help these 2 train wrecks?

    Actually, scratch that….I’d rather keep A.J….ever thought I’d say that! lol :-)

    • Fish pass on Sanchez as Freddie is a better and cheaper option.

      I agree with about keeping Burnett over Zito.

      If I am trading Swisher I want something useful back. He would be a nice fit on many NL teams because of his positional versatility. Swisher to the Braves in a deal for Jair Jurrjens has merit.

    • Zito to the Yankees would not work since it is harder for Barry to get American Leaguers out. But do us Giants fans a favor and trade for him anyway. You can have him for a pencil sharpener.

  30. Cain is not going anywhere I hope. He is part of a special pitching staff that thrives on a lack of run support.

  31. The only thing missing is a Giants perspective on this, Swisher and a throw in prospect for the most consistent pitcher on our staff. Not gonna happen, don’t use the 1 year left on a deal argument because they have been signing all of our pitchers to short term deals after Zito. Cain is better the Jimenez so a better haul is needed and Swisher is not even a part of plausible deal

  32. I’ll repeat this again:

    Like I said, obviously Swisher and Betances alone would not cut it for Cain. I said it would be a starting point, not the full deal.

    The emphasis at the end of article was that I would strongly encourage a pursuit of a trade for Cain —— for the right price.

  33. There is no way the Giants will give up Cain. You’d have a better chance getting Juan Marichal to come out of retirement. If you have your heart set on a Giants starter, set your sights on Sanchez.

  34. The Giants will not trade Cain. They could have had Swisher at one time, and would not do it. Like any prospective trade, you can draw it up for what you think they NEED. All that matters, if it is going to happen, is what they WANT. They want to keep Cain. Sabean has said AND show, that their off season priority is to keep the pitching they have, with the possible exception of Sanchez.

  35. the giants and the yankees are good match for a trade…if the giants are going to trade cain…the yankees will throw in nunez, and swisher for sure who know maybe hughes and another minor league plyer ….this exchange of player can probably get this trade done

  36. I completely agree with you here, I think Matt Cain would be the perfect number 2. He’s exactly the type of pitcher the Yankees need. I do think they would have to give the Giants a lot of talent in return and Montero is definitely one of the pieces. I’m a huge Yankees fan and I’ve been going back and forth with deciding if giving up Montero to aquire an elite pitcher and I think it’s something they have to do. Only for an elite pitcher though. I don’t know why these Giant fans think they can win with 2 starting pitchers. Pitching wins championships, hence why I want Cain from you guys but I think we would give up enough to make it even trade. Montero has been compared to some of the best hitters in the game, I’ve seen him play quite a bit and the kid can hit. If the Yankees don’t make a deal for an elite pitcher, I’d be more than willing to keep Montero to see what he can do in this Yankee lineup. Don’t get it twisted west coast, the yanks will get one of your studs, whether it be Cain or Hernandez, you watch.

    • Hey CJ the giants don’t need Montero they have a stud already at catcher Buster Posey.

      • A stud who has yet to catch after having a fracture in his leg. As much as Posey wants to work behind the plate, the wear and tear on the fracture may be too much for Posey. He’s be better off at first or in in the outfield. I am afraid Posey is going to re injure his leg is he squats too much behind the dish.

    • Check out what the Giants GM says about Cain. Sabean is not trading Cain. It’s a non issue and I don’t understand why Yankee fans think they can swoop down and obtain someone who will be a Giant for the whole 2012 season. The only way the Yanks get Cain is via free agency.
      And the Giants have only two starting pitchers? You must be talking about Madison Bumgarner, 13-13 3.21 ERA, and Ryan Vogelson, 13-7 2.71 ERA. We also have Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain and a young chucker Sabean and Bochy will plug into the fifth spot.

  37. WORD ON THE WIRES….Nationals get Gio for….4 top young players.

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