Spring Training: 3/23/12 Lineups
Lineup vs. Twins:
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Russell Martin C
Andruw Jones DH
Eduardo Nunez 2B
Bill Hall LF
Justin Maxwell RF
RHP Ivan Nova
Lineup vs. Phillies:
Brett Gardner LF
Francisco Cervelli C
Robinson Cano 2B
Eric Chavez 1B
Brandon Laird 3B
Chris Dickerson RF
Dewayne Wise CF
Colin Curtis DH
Doug Bernier SS
RHP Hiroki Kuroda
Pregame Notes
– As you all may have heard already, Joba Chamberlain suffered an “open dislocation” injury to his ankle last night while jumping on a trampoline. It now looks as if Joba Chamberlain will miss the entire 2012 season as well and then some.
Cashman sounds distressed about the Joba news. Joba was making good progress coming back from Tommy John surgery. This is a big setback.
— Jack Curry (@JackCurryYES) March 23, 2012
When Cashman was asked if Jobas injury was career threatening, he said, “I’d'like to say no. My heart and my gut tell me no.”
— Jack Curry (@JackCurryYES) March 23, 2012
Cashman said he feels for Joba on a personal level. He added that its a “massive” loss for the team.
— Jack Curry (@JackCurryYES) March 23, 2012
– Andy Pettitte faced 6 hitters in live batting practice this morning. He love the way that his pitches were moving.
– David Robertson threw a bullpen session today. He faced 7 batters while walking 1 and striking out 2. There was a little bit of an issue with his strikezone command.
– Andruw Jones is not surprised that Chipper Jones will retire after the 2012 season. He admits that Chipper had been thinking about it for the past couple of years.
Enjoy the games everyone!
Posted on March 23, 2012, in Game Threads and tagged Lineups, New York Yankees. Bookmark the permalink. 53 Comments.
Brian D.
fishjam25
jimmytoucan
Matthew B
Delia E.
Dan H.
Matthew S.
Michael P.
Mike D.
Delia, I believe it was reported that Joba was actually “jumping on a trampoline” NOT just “while hanging out with his son”. I think that’s a significant difference.
Wow, this is bad news. An open dislocation is serious and puts his career in jeapordy. My heart goes out to Joba and his family.
what a big blow for the team.
Not to get back to the business of baseball. But I think this probably assures that at least 1 of the prospects makes the trip north with the club in April. Which one will it be?
How do you figure that? Joba wasn’t set for the active roster anyway, so it’s not as if this creates a spot there.
But it will create an open spot come what would be June approximately when Joba was expected back. I figure now instead of the Yankees taking the 2nd lefty north with them when ST ends they take 1 of the prospects knowing that Joba isn’t going to be available all season, now.
I see what you’re saying (I think).
Joba would have taken the spot from the 2nd lefty. Since Joba won’t be back, they might as well nix the 2nd lefty now.
Yep.
uyf, I would say it could be Phelps, Warren, or Cabral at this point.
I feel sorrry for Joba and his family, his whole career has been a roller coaster. This will be very tough for him going forward, he will need alot of support. Hope he returns to the majors after he recovers from this injury. It shows you how fragile life can be. I had my Joba rules shirt out the other day, and I am still going to wear it.
I had my Joba t-shirt on yesterday. I feel bad. (probably going to get killed here for what i’m going to say) If i was making millions of dollars and recovering from TJ I wouldn’t chance anything that could cause an injury. He is a pretty large man and to be on a trampoline which is fun you still have to see it could be an injury risk.
I know he was playing with his son but you could still be considered a good father for just watching and not getting involved.
Let the crushing of those worlds begin.
I have to disagree Matt. I just can’t go with Joba is stupid for jumping on a trampoline with his kid.
I wouldn’t say “stupid”, because I just can’t fault a guy for wanting to play with his kid(s). But I agree that he should have been more careful.
yeah didn’t say stupid. again you can play with your kid but you have to think of better ways of doing it.
IDK. I know i would get killed for the statement but it’s just how i feel.
Guys don’t be surprised if once the Yankees find out the extent of Joba’s injury they move to release him if it’s as serious as some may think. Does Aaron Boone’s 2004 injury ring a bell with anyone. Cause and effect.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to say you said “stupid”.
I get where you’re coming from.
Two on tap for the Yankees today. Kuroda on the mound versus the Phillies and Nova on the mound versus the Twins.
Sure would be nice to see Nova start out strong and stay strong for 5 innings. I’ll say the say think about Kuroda.
Yup two games. Lot’s of position players and pitchers going to get chances today. Should be good to see.
Here is how I think of it. Bobby Jenks had a DUI last night. Lucky he didnt do anything dangerous involving a trampoline right? Yeah Im excited going to get to watch the starters for the most part then hit the golf course at 3.
i see your point.
Enjoy the links. you have a good day for it.
Speaking of DUI’s I guess Lorenz did mot get in trouble with YES for his DUI since he is doing the game.
Looks like both Yankees pitches brought their “A” Spring Training game today.
…and just as I say that Nova gives up a HR in the top of the 5th inning. Isn’t that always the way it happens?
always happens that way.
Somebody pinch me and see if I’m awake. Pena, just hit a HR, I must be dreaming.
Nunez is quietly or may be not so quietly having one nice spring training since get back in the line up.
somewhere oldyankee7 is smiling big with that comment.
Mason Williams just got in the Twins game. He batted in the bottom of the 7th reached on a fielders choice.
Sorry about that. Looks like Williams was credited with a base hit.
…and Maxwell he’s having a great spring.
uyf, Maxwell is having a great spring, but I think his body of work is bad, and will keep him from making this team. When you look at the careers of Maxwell and Hall you see they have been mediocore to average.
Doug, that’s a similar argument fans used last year about Ayala. And to be fair he would up being a very valuable asset for the Yankees during the season.
sorry. “he wound…” NOT he would ….
uyf, Cashman has made alot of good moves in the pen. Last year it was Ayala and Wade. In 2010 it was Wood, in 2009, Albaladego, Ramirez. 2008 Veras and Bruney. Joba, Hughes, Noesi, and Nova all did well in the pen. Bullpens are constantly evolving, this was a huge strength for the Yanks last year.
Nice outing for Kuroda – 5 2/3 innings, 1 ER, 3 K’s, 1Walk
great line.
I’m looking forward to our rotation this season. Hmm… that’s something I haven’t said about the Yankees in a while.
agreed. This season should be a good one.
I think a lot of Yankees fans are this year.
Kuroda has been flying under the radar this spring, I really like the way this guy can pitch. He has all the attributes of a good pitcher. Good mental make up, velocity, control, deception, and confidence. I like his out pitch, a splitter.
The Yankees rotation really does look very good this year.
Tough break for Soria and the Royals.
Anyone watch the game today? How did Nova look? I see he completed 7 IP with no walks and 5 Ks – that’s a positive.
His stuff has looked fine to me but he’s been up in the zone too much which has led to 5 HRs which is uncharacteristic of him. Besides that, his peripherals have been very good for whatever that’s worth (not much in ST). In 19.2 ip he has 14 Ks – 1 BB and a 1.17 WHIP
He’s given up a bunch of hits though. Including today 23 in a little over 19 innings.
It’s so hard to judge how a pitcher has done in the spring unless you’ve watched him throw the entire way, because stats are as close to meaningless as you can get in spring training. But if I’m going to take any stat into consideration it would be a pitcher’s K/BB ratio. That at least shows how his control is doing, whereas things like velocity take some time to fully develop.
GP, hows it going guy?
I am trying to get an understanding of your choice of K/BB ratio to rate pitchers.
I showed you (I think) a list of a few pitchers that should show your reasoning is faulty. Two of the pitchers are in the HOF; Whitey Ford@5.6 and Warren Spahn@4.5…plus Eddie Lopat@3.5 and Andy Pettitte@6.9…not so much but, all 4 of them were very good to great pitchers. None of them had an avg. SO/9 of more than 6.9, as you can see.
I know a guy that had (from memory) a 2.1/9 SO and about 1.40/9 BB, I may be a bit off but not much…he had a very good record but not in the big show, he was doing other things.
I didn’t say anything about K/9 being a good measurement of a pitcher, nor of BB/9 being a good measurement. But when looking at spring stats K/BB ratio at least means something to me. It’s not an end-all be-all thing, though.
However, missing bats, especially in the AL East, is a very valuable thing. And you don’t want to give good offenses free passes (aka “walks”) either. There aren’t too many guys like David Robertson that can get away with that. Especially starting pitchers.
GP, I must apologise to you for making such an error. As anyone will tell you I am so old I still think the earth is flat…so I have been told!
Anyhow, I know three people who wish they could have done, what D-Rob can, as a pitcher…and I am one of them.
My way of judging a pitcher is very old school, I have no preconceived rules by which to judge them. I see a pitcher getting the job done…not matter how…and see if he has the feel for pitching and self-confidence to do the job. That is my pitcher, I don’t care if he is a Koufax or a Garcia type, they win!
I must retract one thing I said about the use of K/BB, it is one of the tools to help judge (Like you said) a pitcher you have not gotten to see much or, not at all.
My thanks for being a gentleman about my mistake.
Dude, please, you’re making me feel bad.
All I can say is that I love numbers/stats, so I’m always looking for some way to measure players. Whether that’s on their own, or against one another. I know there is no one stat for any player, but I can’t help myself.
Young, old, it doesn’t matter. You, sir, are a true gentleman and scholar.
Old yankee…..that was Doug who you were chatting about Eddie Lopat and the like last week. You silly rascal. Now go to your room! No dessert for you tonight! LOL Just kidding Ken!
GP makes a good point about Spring #s. They are close to meaningless unless you aso see the games themselves. I really have no worries about any of our starters this ST. They all have looked good stuffwise, They just need to fine tune things which will come. The only one I have a bit of trepidation on is Pineda. He’s obviously carrying some extra LBs and I wonder how long it will take him til he regains his full velocity. He certainly doesn’t look injured and his slider & change look great so I think its just a matter of time til he starts ripping off a lot of 95s & 96s.
Fishjam…
See, how many times have I said, you guys keep me in line?
By the way, I did go to my room without dessert…I forgot where my room was and ended up in the yard with the dogs…but that’s another story.
Thanks for the heads up!
LOL haha…..you see we do have a sense of humor on this site!
Damn…
I keep telling you guys I am a gentleman and a scholar but, Noooooooo, you say not a chance!
Well, at least one person around here with august and discerning insight has said I am.
But, I am worrying about his confused state of mind.
I am not a great stat guy, as most will tell you, if asked! I use the stat sheet to help me see how a player is being judged from scouts. Then I use my eyes to see if he is really as good or as bad as the report says.
We have two players on the team right now, I started writing about long before they really became known by the fans…one of them was called a 5th or at best, a 4th OF for some team, the other was down on the farm spinning his wheels because he didn’t work at it hard enough and was lazy.
Maybe you have heard of them, Brett and Cano. There were very few others, making noise about them, I think one or two are with this site.