Game 81 Lineup: Yankees @ Rays

Lineup vs. Rays:

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Andruw Jones LF
Russell Martin C
Jayson Nix 3B

David Phelps RHP

Pregame Notes:

– Today marks the halfway point of the season! Only 81 games to go before postseason baseball!

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Posted on July 4, 2012, in Game Threads and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. 111 Comments.

  1. Have to be due for a big A-Rod game right?

  2. Guess the players…….

    Player A: 273 AB’s, 24R, 67H, 12Doubles, 8HR, 28RBI, 67K’s, .245avg

    Player B: 198 AB’s, 21R, 36H, 10Doubles, 8HR, 21RBI, 46K’s, .182avg

  3. Martin has to be player B!

  4. I am not that good doing research, it always takes me hours. :)

  5. Sorry about that, I forgot to wish you all a happy and safe 4th of July!
    I was up at 0400, getting time for a nap or two! Watch the game later, have a good one guys and lady! :)

  6. Just a bit of my convoluted thinking but, would it not be the right time to move A-Rod down to #6 until he gets himself back to his normal days, or close to it. He is so far out of whack it seem as if he needs glasses sometimes!

    • I hear ya Ken. Almost wonder if he is injured with some of those swings he is taking.

    • Happy 4th Ken…

      Lens crafters just called… they want Arod as a spokesman.

      • Time to bench Arod and play Chavez ………Chavez is a better fielder and clutch hitter.

        • you and I both know that won’t happen T-man.

          • Ha ha ……trying to scare Ken…..

            • Not at all twasp, Chavez is with the Yankees because he (and the Yanks) know his body can’t handle all that playing time. No doubt you are right, in fact, we all know Chavez was one of the best 3rd basemen for years on both sides of the ball.
              I think I would just move A-Rod down in the order, that way maybe he can work on getting his sh-t together and help the team. Also, when Brett comes back put him in the lead-off spot and keep him there…I’ll let you people decide where to put Jeter! :)

              • Ha ha , Ken, we know where you want to put Jeter….

                • on the bench? ha haha

                • twasp…
                  Jeter is not going to be picked at anymore than A-Rod…by me! It is wonderous (is that a word?) that fans will think of moving A-Rod down but, can’t even contemplate moving Jeter out of the lead-off spot! Oh well, be that as it may, sometime between now and next year he will have to move.
                  I have spoken, therefore it will be! lol :)

                  • Ken ….I guess the fans want a lead-off hitter that hits .300 , is a smart baserunner and scores runs (Jeter).

                    • But twasp, we know Jeter will not be at or above .300 the end of this year and next year it will be worse! Why not put the next lead-off hitter in that spot now and give him a 1/2 years experience….because he wants more ABs! Come on guys, think ahead for once, we need Brett to adapt to the #1 spot and we need Nunez in the line-up, start now not next year! Look what the Rays did to us, they ran all over us we have only two and a half (Wise) guys that can play like that…get them in the line-up! :)

                  • Matt – do you know a 38 year old SS, that is second in the league for SS in batting average, home runs and runs scored ?

                  • Ken ….I agree that we have to work Nunez and Gardner back into the lineup…..so we are not so one dimensional. But I’m not so sure that Jeter will regress and bat below .300 …in fact I’ll bet you a large tube of Fixadent that he doesn’t. :-)

                  • Last in Defense? Ha ha I caught you! You just said you wouldn’t pick on Jeter :-(

                  • Sorry Ken – jeter is not close to last in fielding see below:

                    MLB Player Fielding Stats – As SS – 2012

                    Statistics: Batting | Pitching | Fielding
                    Season:
                    League:
                    Position:
                    Qualified | Non-Qualified CLEAR
                    Sortable Fielding
                    RK PLAYER TEAM GP GS FULL TC PO A E DP FPCT RF
                    1 Brendan Ryan SEA 71 69 608 304 96 206 2 54 .993 4.47
                    2 J.J. Hardy BAL 79 79 725 395 126 266 3 59 .992 4.87
                    3 Jhonny Peralta DET 72 70 615 289 114 170 5 34 .983 4.16
                    4 Mike Aviles BOS 79 77 696 371 134 230 7 62 .981 4.71
                    5 Cliff Pennington OAK 76 74 662 359 125 227 7 51 .981 4.78
                    6 Yunel Escobar TOR 79 78 698 384 125 251 8 52 .979 4.85
                    7 Derek Jeter NYY 70 70 626 281 100 175 6 36 .979 3.95
                    8 Alexei Ramirez CHW 79 79 710 321 114 200 7 41 .978 3.98
                    9 Alcides Escobar KC 78 78 696 344 135 201 8 56 .977 4.35
                    10 Erick Aybar LAA 76 74 645 343 130 205 8 54 .977 4.67
                    RK PLAYER TEAM GP GS FULL TC PO A E DP FPCT RF
                    11 Asdrubal Cabrera CLE 70 70 625 355 118 228 9 58 .975 4.98
                    12 Elvis Andrus TEX 77 77 685 336 119 208 9 48 .973 4.30
                    13 Elliot Johnson TB 57 46 434 206 56 142 8 34 .961 4.10

                    • Not picking on him just facts, you put him out there with your statement like now, you are counting 2012 only. Just think, one SS has only 185 +/- errors in 24 years!
                      Why do you always try and make it look like Jeter was better than he really was? He was good enough to be rated the best SS the Yankees have ever had and one of the top five hitters at the SS position ever! That ain’t bad for anyone to be rated in the top 5 SS hitters of all time! :)

  7. Not sure newly acquired Darnell McDonald is the answer to the problems for the Yankees but let’s see how it pans out.

  8. 2012 stats……….Arod 22 extra base hits ……..Jeter 22 extra base hits. What is wrong with Arod’s power?

    • twasp, it looks like when gets a ball other than way up or down, he is trying to hit the way he use to…a nice little back spin on the ball (swinging down). Big mistake, to do that like he once did, he needs BAT Speed, which is something he is a bit short on right now. Swinging down also brings into play his many fly balls, ground balls, DPs etc. My opinion! :)

  9. Good for Cliff Lee getting his first win today.

  10. Price is just nasty.

  11. Tampa Bay is just making the Yankees look like a triple A team. Running at will. Were not covering the bases…out of position……

  12. Matt S – to CashMan – GET HAMELS NOW!

  13. A-Rod with a stolen base!!!! what the hell was swisher doing standing at 1st?

  14. WTF is Swisher doing at 1st while A-Rod is stealing. At least no umpire interference on this one.

    • Matt thank goodness somebody else noticed that lol. I thought i was the only one and he did it TWICE! He wasn’t on 2nd when Arod stole 3rd the 1st time either.

  15. Where would we be without Robinson Cano? Coming into his prime. A future Hall of Famer!

  16. Thanks Kyle…..we owe you one…..

    • Twasp not sure you were around on this blog last year as much as you are now. I wrote then that I went to a game in the Bronx against Tampa. It wasn’t my families normal seats they were rain out seats and we sat next to the visitors bullpen. Me and others went all out on Farnsworth to wear he eventually got up and sat in the inside part. Then he came out to get warmed up for the 8th and we started again and security made us sit down.

  17. good win stinks Phelps didn’t get the win. He pitched well.

  18. That’s a funny story, Matt. What kind of things were you saying to him?

    • Someone said who hear misses Farnsworth not being on the Yankees and the crowd of us went silent. He kinda smiled on that comment.

      People were asking him what’s his over/under on blowing games that season.

      A lot of curses as well.

  19. Yeah Matt, Arod has a great eye at the plate. He also is a very smart baserunner and base stealer. Even at his advanced age and with slower speed his keen baseball instincts allow him to steal bases.

  20. That’s funny ….. He seems like the type that you can get under his skin.

  21. Great win today and a big one so we only lost 1 game instead of 3. Hopefully Phelps can keep this up. Bullpen has been giving up big hits lately except for Soriano. Sucked having to watch the Tampa broadcast the whole series in Florida lol.

  22. Everyone stop picking on Nick…don’t you know he is S.wisherlicious.? And has a large Twitter following?

  23. Matt – why do the Yankees ban facial hair but allow Nick to wear those crazy hairdos?

  24. I think they should ban his faux hawk….

  25. The reason Mark Teixeira gave for the Yankees losing 9 in a row at Tropicana Field before yesterday was classic: Vitamin D deficiency.

  26. That’s funny Delia…..

  27. Twasp, fishjam…
    I am being serious and really want your feed back!
    Other than personality what is this big thing for Jeter?
    I understand he has over 3,000 hits but so will Cano (and A-Rod) and Cano will get them by hitting #3 to #5 a much harder spot to hit in. He has what, 5 WS rings? WS rings are a team thing not one persons record!
    Looking at some of his stats; other than 3,000+ hits he has nothing on the MLB stage!
    Again, I appreciate Jeters athleticism, instincts and the Yankees have been lucky to have him for all these years, he has been one of the great SS of all time.
    But, none of this tells me what I want to know! :)

  28. Ken – it’s his good looks and his non-controversial persona. Not to mention being in the right spot at the right time. Also the self-confidence in his manner.

    I’m reading a book now called Damn Yankees and it describes Jeter on the field as looking as if he is a sherriff busting threw the doors of a saloon, a saloon he owns. While Arod has a frown on his face most of the time.

    In this day and age, with high definition multi-media, sound bites , pixels…… Perception becomes truth.

    • Ok, twasp! I see what you are getting at. Is this another book called Damn Yankees, because the older one was back in the 50/60s….they made a move of it, maybe they’ll do the same with this one.

  29. Ken -There you got a straight answer from TWASP.

  30. Ken – Kennedy beat Nixon because of personality and looks.

    • That is the difference between many fans and I, I judge on talent and production alone.
      True story; I had a captain once that just hated me (I didn’t like him much either) so, in 10 years I think we said maybe 10+/- words to each other. He was so good at his job, I kept him and wouldn’t promote him for 3 of those last years. When I moved out of the field, I recommended him for the job. Most everyone was shocked at the time but, I wanted the bast man for the job…not the most popular one!

  31. Ken -read the Esquire article…..Arod shares your frustration with Jeter getting all the positive hype….even though he’s not that great a player.

    I personally believevJeter is no where near Arod or Cano when it comes to pure baseball talent. And I think most baseball analysts would agree.

  32. Jeter is for the most part a singles hitter and singles hitters don’t have the impact on winning games that a power hitter does. Arod and Cano can carry a team for weeks , Jeter could never do that.

    But Jeter was in a lot of high exposure situations because he was in the post season so much with the Yankee dynasty. And he got some clutch hits and clutch plays in those situations that stood out in the minds of the fans. That added to his legend.

  33. Ken – it’s a different book called Damn Yankees published this year. It’s a compilation of articles written by sports writers from SI written specifically about the Yankees for the book. It’s very entertaining with insider stories about Catfish Hunter, Chuck Knoblach, Mickey Mantle….

    You’d love it.

  34. Ken – there is data to support your hypothesis that Jeter is not as great as many fans think:

    Starting in 2007 till today Jeter is only batting .250 with RISP. And leads the Yankees in hitting into DPs. Mr. Clutch…. Not so much.

  35. Ken – let’s look deeper into the data…..2009 for instance…..Jeter batted .331……great season right…..his batting contributed significantly to the Yankees wins….right…….well…..not as much as you might think.

    With RISP he only batted .259 ….with an sOPS+. – 5% below the league average. In high leverage situations he had an OPS of only .727 …. -4% below league average.

    Johnny Damon in 2009 hit .280 but withRISP he batted .300 with an sOPS + 21% ABOVE league average. In high leverage situations he batted .327 with a huge 1.073 OPS + 84% ABOVE league average.

    This analysis shows that Jeter’s high batting average is sometimes misleading regarding the impact he has had on winning. And supports Arod’s contention that ” Jeter is not the guy to be feared “.

    • I bore defending a sure-fire Hall of Famer in EVERYONE’s book, but I’ll play along. When you cherry-pick small sample size stats you can make them support any narrative you choose. For his career Jeter has hit well in every clutch statistic you can find.

      Overall he’s a .313 hitter and in his prime years from 1998-2009 (age 24-35), he hit .320/.391/.466/.858 with a 124 OPS+ and averaged 112 runs, 197 Hits, 17 hr, 76 rbi & 22 sb per year. To average those numbers for 12 years at the most demanding non-Catcher position is incredible. Add 5 WS rings, a post-season line of .307/.374/.465/.839.

      Clutch stats? He hits over .300 in every clutch stat there is..Risp, Bases Loaded, RISp w/ 2outs, etc…the only one he’s under is late & close @ .292.

      It’s not fair to either of them to compare ARod & Jeter. They are totally different players. jeter’s made a HOF career getting on base, getting singles & doubles and scoring runs. Alex has made a career hitting the long ball. They are both HOF’ers without a doubt and all-time greats. Jeter has the advantage with fans bc he’s a lifetime Yankee and has somehow managed to always come out smelling like a rose which is rare when media likes to find dirt. Alex has made a lot of mistakes in his career and didn’t have the family support and upbringing that Derek had. They are both HOF players and all-time greats. Talking about them now is boring to me since they are only supporting members now at their age. Cano, Granderson, Tex & Swish need to lead this team now!

      • Ha ha …Fish….. Your Jeter love is showing…. Your bored, but not bored enough to not defend him.

        • I don’t even love him. I’m just a realist. I said he doesn’t belong on the All-Star team this year when most people do. Other fans laugh at us for complaining about Jeter. He was a great player and will go down as one of the top ShortStops of all-time. Now, he’s not the same player but he’s still better than most SS’s and IMO is the 3rd best SS in the A.L. right now, not bad for 38.

          I’ve said for the last 2-3 years he should be platooning with Gardner in the 1st & 9th slot. I also said that jeter should only be playing SS about 100 times a year now and Nunez should have been given regular starts against RHP. I think the Yanks need a legit backup SS now to give jeter more rest.

          Truthfully Jeter’s never been a favorite of mine. My favorite players growing up were Munson, Murcer & Mattingly. On the 90′s teams I liked O’Neill, Mariano, Tino & Cone. Now, Cano & Robertson are probably my favorites now for their unique abilities. But I’ve always had immense respect for Jeter’s game, how he’s stayed clean and what he’s meant to this team. And I cringe when I see Yankees fans complain about Jeter. Like they say about Phil Simms and even Eli Manning now….they’ll never have to buy a beer in NY again. Once you’ve won the rings and brought home the hardware, you earn a level of respect in my mind. If there’s one thing all the Mets & Red Sox fans I know have taught me is to be grateful we’ve had guys like Jeter.

          • praise the lord amen! well said Fish.

          • fishjam…you have said some of what I have been trying to get across but, granted nowhere near as well as you have in both your comments above.Jeter will go down as one of the best SS of all time but when fans say he is in the same class as the top 10 Yankees…not so much! 1st ballot HoF is not in the cards, going by stats but, he may make it on his likeability and fables. I don’t care how he gets in, I know he deserves the HoF but, not 1st ballot in any way shape or form!
            And you are right the two of A-Rod/Jeter are not to be compared to each other.
            Good job fishjam! :)

            • Ken – don’t let the Big Fish in a Small Pond push you around…… If you feel Jeter has been overrated and unfairly given the same status as Aroid …. You have the right to compare them and give your opinion.

        • TWASP LOVES JETER !

          Thats why TWASP cringes when stupid UZR ratings are used to put him down.

          That’s why TWASP MUST DEFEND HIM , TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY!

      • Fish……that’s weird …you and TWaSP HAVE THE SAME EXACT FAVORITE PLAYERS! EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

  36. Top 273 fielding SS – career: ( look who is 28th)

    Rank Player (yrs, age) Fielding % as SS Throws
    1. Troy Tulowitzki (7, 27) .9851 R
    2. Omar Vizquel (24, 45) .9847 R
    3. Jimmy Rollins (13, 33) .9834 R
    4. Mike Bordick (14) .9821 R
    5. J.J. Hardy (8, 29) .9817 R
    6. Rey Sanchez (15) .9813 R
    7. Cesar Izturis (12, 32) .9805 R
    8. Larry Bowa (16) .9797 R
    9. Brendan Ryan (6, 30) .9796 R
    10. Tony Fernandez (17) .9795 R
    11. Cal Ripken+ (21) .9793 R
    12. Ozzie Smith+ (19) .9782 R
    13. Stephen Drew (7, 29) .9780 R
    14. Deivi Cruz (9) .9779 R
    15. David Eckstein (10) .9778 R
    16. Jhonny Peralta (10, 30) .9775 R
    17. Juan Castro (17) .9774 R
      Neifi Perez (12) .9774 R
      Jack Wilson (12, 34) .9774 R
    20. Frank Duffy (10) .9772 R
      Alex Rodriguez (19, 36) .9772 R
    22. Spike Owen (13) .9770 R
    23. Orlando Cabrera (15) .9768 R
      Alan Trammell (20) .9768 R
    25. Mark Belanger (18) .9767 R
    26. Michael Young (13, 35) .9766 R
    27. Bucky Dent (12) .9764 R
    28. Derek Jeter (18, 38) .9763 R
      Dick Schofield (14) .9763 R
    30. Adam Everett (11) .9761 R
    31. Rey Ordonez (9) .9757 R
    32. Roger Metzger (11) .9755 R
      Juan Uribe (12, 32) .9755 R
    34. Yunel Escobar (6, 29) .9754 R
    35. Jay Bell (18) .9751 R
    36. Alex Gonzalez (13) .9749 R
      Khalil Greene (7) .9749 R
    38. Barry Larkin+ (19) .9746 R
    39. Kevin Elster (13) .9739 R
      Alexei Ramirez (5, 30) .9739 R
    41. Royce Clayton (17) .9738 R
      Ozzie Guillen (16) .9738 R
      Marco Scutaro (11, 36) .9738 R
    44. Rafael Belliard (17) .9737 R
    45. Rich Aurilia (15) .9736 R
      Woody Woodward (9) .9736 R
    47. Gary Disarcina (12) .9734 R
    48. Jose Reyes (10, 29) .9732 R
    49. Tim Foli (16) .9727 R
      Dal Maxvill (14) .9727 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Fielding % as SS Throws
    51. Lou Boudreau+ (15) .9725 R
      Jose Vizcaino (18) .9725 R
    53. Ryan Theriot (8, 32) .9724 R
    54. Alex Cora (14) .9722 R
      Greg Gagne (15) .9722 R
    56. Manuel Lee (11) .9721 R
    57. Chris Gomez (16) .9720 R
    58. Eddie Miller (14) .9718 R
      John Valentin (11) .9718 R
    60. Luis Aparicio+ (18) .9717 R
      Alex Gonzalez (14, 35) .9717 R
      John McDonald (14, 37) .9717 R
    63. Roy McMillan (16) .9715 R
      Miguel Tejada (15, 38) .9715 R
    65. Alvaro Espinoza (12) .9713 R
      Steve Jeltz (8) .9713 R
      Fred Stanley (14) .9713 R
    68. Erick Aybar (7, 28) .9712 R
      Scott Fletcher (15) .9712 R
    70. Rick Burleson (13) .9711 R
    71. Bobby Crosby (8) .9710 R
      Bobby Wine (12) .9710 R
    73. Clint Barmes (10, 33) .9706 R
      Dave Concepcion (19) .9706 R
      Felix Fermin (10) .9706 R
      Eddie Kasko (10) .9706 R
      Hal Lanier (10) .9706 R
    78. Leo Cardenas (16) .9705 R
    79. Cristian Guzman (11) .9704 R
    80. Ed Brinkman (15) .9701 R
    81. Gene Alley (11) .9699 R
      Dave Anderson (10) .9699 R
      Jose Hernandez (15) .9699 R
    84. Chris Speier (19) .9698 R
    85. Ronny Cedeno (8, 29) .9697 R
    86. Rob Picciolo (9) .9696 R
      Edgar Renteria (16) .9696 R
      Walt Weiss (14) .9696 R
    89. Elvis Andrus (4, 23) .9695 R
      Ernie Banks+ (19) .9695 R
    91. Yuniesky Betancourt (8, 30) .9694 R
    92. Rico Petrocelli (13) .9693 R
    93. Bud Harrelson (16) .9691 R
      Kevin Stocker (8) .9691 R
    95. Jose Uribe (10) .9690 R
    96. Rafael Santana (7) .9689 R
    97. Chico Carrasquel (10) .9688 R
      Marty Marion (13) .9688 R
    99. Nomar Garciaparra (14) .9684 R
    100. Jason Bartlett (9, 32) .9680 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Fielding % as SS Throws
    101. Hanley Ramirez (8, 28) .9677 R
      Phil Rizzuto+ (13) .9677 R
    103. Alex Grammas (10) .9676 R
    104. Ron Hansen (15) .9675 R
    105. Tony Kubek (9) .9674 R
    106. Ricky Gutierrez (12) .9673 R
    107. Shawon Dunston (18) .9671 R
    108. Ruben Amaro (11) .9668 R
      Joe DeMaestri (11) .9668 R
    110. Buddy Kerr (9) .9665 R
    111. Glenn Hoffman (9) .9664 R
    112. Carlos Guillen (14) .9663 R
      Craig Reynolds (15) .9663 R
    114. Roy Smalley (13) .9661 R
    115. Rafael Furcal (13, 34) .9660 R
    116. Ray Oyler (6) .9658 R
      Tom Veryzer (12) .9658 R
    118. Don Kessinger (16) .9656 R
    119. Dickie Thon (15) .9653 R
    120. Angel Berroa (9) .9652 R
    121. Pat Meares (9) .9649 R
      Everett Scott (13) .9649 R
    123. Johnny Logan (13) .9648 R
      Virgil Stallcup (7) .9648 R
    125. Robin Yount+ (20) .9645 R
    126. Tony Womack (13) .9644 R
    127. Johnny Pesky (10) .9641 R
    128. Bert Campaneris (19) .9640 R
      Harvey Kuenn (15) .9640 R
      Julio Lugo (12) .9640 R
    131. Jeff Blauser (13) .9639 R
    132. Larry Brown (12) .9638 R
    133. Billy Jurges (17) .9637 R
    134. Enzo Hernandez (8) .9636 R
    135. Jim Fregosi (18) .9632 R
    136. Eddie Bressoud (12) .9630 R
      Jose Pagan (15) .9630 R
    138. Maury Wills (14) .9628 R
    139. Dick Howser (8) .9627 R
    140. Ivan de Jesus (15) .9626 R
      George Strickland (10) .9626 R
    142. Gene Michael (10) .9625 R
    143. Pee Wee Reese+ (16) .9624 R
    144. Freddie Patek (14) .9623 R
    145. Willy Miranda (9) .9622 R
    146. Johnny Lipon (9) .9615 R
    147. Dick Groat (14) .9614 R
    148. Denis Menke (13) .9613 R
    149. Alfredo Griffin (18) .9611 R
    150. Mark Grudzielanek (15) .9610 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Fielding % as SS Throws
      Mario Guerrero (8) .9610 R
      Mario Mendoza (9) .9610 R
    153. Garry Templeton (16) .9609 R
    154. Leo Durocher+ (17) .9608 R
    155. Luis Rivera (11) .9607 R
      Dick Schofield (19) .9607 R
    157. Johnnie LeMaster (12) .9605 R
      Vern Stephens (15) .9605 R
    159. Woodie Held (14) .9604 R
    160. Hod Ford (15) .9602 R
    161. Toby Harrah (17) .9601 R
    162. Al Dark (14) .9599 R
    163. Chico Fernandez (8) .9598 R
    164. Felipe Lopez (11) .9597 R
      Bill Russell (18) .9597 R
    166. Julio Franco (23) .9596 R
    167. Skeeter Newsome (12) .9590 R
    168. Darrel Chaney (11) .9588 R
      Jim Mason (9) .9588 R
    170. Dale Berra (11) .9586 R
      Bob Lillis (10) .9586 R
    172. Jose Valentin (16) .9585 R
    173. Billy Hunter (6) .9582 R
    174. Eddie Joost (17) .9578 R
      Andres Thomas (6) .9578 R
    176. Sam Dente (9) .9577 R
      Kurt Stillwell (9) .9577 R
    178. Woody English (12) .9567 R
    179. Joe Boley (6) .9566 R
    180. U L Washington (11) .9563 R
    181. Billy Rogell (14) .9561 R
    182. Bill Almon (15) .9560 R
    183. Andre Rodgers (11) .9557 R
    184. Zoilo Versalles (12) .9556 R
    185. Lyn Lary (12) .9555 R
      Cecil Travis (12) .9555 R
    187. Bill Knickerbocker (10) .9553 R
    188. Dick McAuliffe (16) .9550 R
    189. Don Buddin (6) .9540 R
    190. Charlie Hollocher (7) .9536 R
    191. Rafael Ramirez (13) .9532 R
    192. Daryl Spencer (10) .9529 R
    193. Topper Rigney (6) .9528 R
    194. Dick Bartell (18) .9526 R
      Frank Taveras (11) .9526 R
    196. Terry Turner (17) .9525 R
    197. Rabbit Maranville+ (23) .9519 R
    198. Andujar Cedeno (7) .9517 R
      Travis Jackson+ (15) .9517 R
    200. Joe Cronin+ (20) .9515 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Fielding % as SS Throws
    201. Joe Sewell+ (14) .9514 R
      Arky Vaughan+ (14) .9514 R
    203. Mariano Duncan (12) .9511 R
    204. Charlie Gelbert (9) .9510 R
    205. Jackie Tavener (6) .9507 R
    206. Tommy Thevenow (15) .9495 R
    207. Frankie Crosetti (17) .9494 R
    208. Eric McNair (14) .9493 R
    209. Sonny Jackson (12) .9492 R
    210. Billy Urbanski (7) .9490 R
    211. Roger Peckinpaugh (17) .9488 R
    212. George McBride (16) .9482 R
    213. Luke Appling+ (20) .9475 R
    214. Roy Smalley (11) .9474 R
    215. Eddie Lake (11) .9468 R
    216. Granny Hamner (17) .9464 R
    217. Billy Myers (7) .9456 R
    218. Lennie Merullo (7) .9450 R
    219. Jackie Hernandez (9) .9447 R
    220. Dave Bancroft+ (16) .9443 R
      Red Kress (14) .9443 R
    222. Ernie Johnson (10) .9437 R
    223. Jose Offerman (15) .9434 R
    224. Wally Gerber (15) .9431 R
    225. Chick Galloway (10) .9430 R
    226. Heinie Sand (6) .9428 R
    227. Rabbit Warstler (11) .9425 R
    228. John Sullivan (6) .9423 R
    229. Glenn Wright (11) .9413 R
    230. George Davis+ (20) .9402 R
    231. Honus Wagner+ (21) .9401 R
    232. Mickey Doolin (13) .9396 R
    233. Al Bridwell (11) .9388 R
      Ray Chapman (9) .9388 R
    235. Art Fletcher (13) .9386 R
    236. Bobby Wallace+ (25) .9385 R
    237. Joe Tinker+ (15) .9381 R
    238. Donie Bush (16) .9365 R
    239. Buck Weaver (9) .9360 R
    240. Jack Barry (11) .9355 R
    241. Charley O’Leary (11) .9354 R
    242. Ivy Olson (14) .9319 R
    243. Doc Lavan (12) .9304 R
    244. Heinie Wagner (12) .9279 R
    245. Larry Kopf (10) .9275 R
    246. Freddy Parent (12) .9274 R
    247. Mark Koenig (12) .9273 R
    248. Bill Dahlen (21) .9269 R
    249. Phil Lewis (4) .9263 R
    250. Tommy Corcoran (18) .9242 R
    Rank Player (yrs, age) Fielding % as SS Throws
    251. Bones Ely (14) .9228 R
    252. Hughie Jennings+ (18) .9216 R
    253. Monte Cross (15) .9201 R
    254. Kid Elberfeld (14) .9200 R
    255. Bob Allen (7) .9155 R
    256. Rudy Hulswitt (7) .9149 R
    257. Jack Glasscock (17) .9104 R
    258. Herman Long (16) .9064 R
    259. Germany Smith (15) .9023 R
    260. Ed McKean (13) .8996 R
    261. Davy Force (15) .8972 R
    262. Shorty Fuller (9) .8902 R
    263. Monte Ward+ (17) .8871 R
    264. Frank Shugart (8) .8825 R
    265. Jack Rowe (12) .8817 R
    266. Arthur Irwin (13) .8809 R
    267. John Peters (11) .8745 R
    268. Candy Nelson (13) .8716 R
    269. George Wright+ (12) .8699 R
    270. Sadie Houck (8) .8628 R
    271. Frank Fennelly (7) .8601 R
    272. Bill Gleason (8) .8598 R
    273. Sam Wise (12) .8594 R

  37. You are correct Fish…..Sparky had a mean sinking slider that batters could not jack out.

  38. Ken – how could you not get Sparky Lyle?

  39. Ken – the point is Jeter is not near the bottom as you stated. In 2012 or for his career. BOOYA!

    • twasp…
      How many times have you heard or said those fielding stats are mostly subjective and we both know Jeter gets most close calls anyhow. Heck he must have 10+/- hits on calls that were made in his favor at first base alone…slow motion shows he was out most of the time but, the calls were not that easy to make so, flip a coin. The main point is my eyes have told me Jeter is/was not as good as the stats say. Is there a stigma for not being among the better fielding SS ever…damn, do you realize how good one must be to be that good? :)

  40. Fish/Matt – only 4 Yankees have led the majors in VORP in a season. Mattingly, Mantle, Arod … Who is the 4th?

  41. Ken – Reggie said some of the things we’ve been saying about the Hall of Fame…..they have lowered their standards and let too many people in now. he said guys like Phil Niekro, Bert Blyleven, Gary Carter, Jim Rice, Don Sutton & Kirby Puckett don’t belong in the HOF.

  42. Good for REGGIE – calling out the BoliMaster. No HoF for Aroid.

    • Guys,
      Now maybe you can understand why I try and stick up for A-Rod, people say what ever they want to about him and he is guilty as charged no matter what he says.

      The part I don’t like is this part of his diatribe:

      *And A-Rod? “Al’s a very good friend,” Jackson says. “But I think there are real questions about his numbers. As much as I like him, what he admitted about his usage does cloud some of his records.”

      There is little need to ask whether Jackson thinks any of the PED-linked players should be inducted into the Hall. “If any of those guys get in, no Hall of Famer will attend,” he says. There is only one player in that category for whom he might make an exception. “The question is going to be a guy like Andy Pettitte, who admitted that he got involved for a while, but who is so universally respected in the game. I think he’ll get in, but there will be a lot of [members] who won’t go.” Would Reggie? Jackson takes a deep breath. “He’s an awfully good friend,” he says. “I’ve known Andy since he was 20. I’ll leave it there.”*
      ****************
      The key here is; (Andy) is a very good friend and well-respected in the game. So, Andy gets a pass for trying it but A-Rod is thrown under the bus for trying the same thing and both of them quit. What is that but jealousy, the same goes for most of the crap that is always in the media about A-Rod. It is always a source said, it was said he did, an unnamed source has said A-Rod. Just like that gambling thing earlier this year, A-Rod was said to be in a high limit private poker game where drugs were prevalent…Not True! I wonder if fans have ever thought A-Rods HR totales in Texas were high but, Texas is known for high flying baseballs so one that may hit 40 HRs a year could hit 45+ easy.

      • Yeah I don’t get that reasoning. If i go does it once or 50 times you should still be mad if it bothers you so much.

        To me it seemed to be everywhere so it doesn’t bother me. I’m just actually sick of talking about it though.

        • Matt – consider the source … A narcissistic home run hitter in the HOF. All Reggie cares about is his place in history and the number of players that pass him on the HR list. That’s why he is against Arod and is willing to give Clemens and Andy a break.

  43. If the glove doesn’t fit …you must acquit!

  44. Boli- boli-Bo – boli -banana-fana-FO-foli

    • I agree but some try to differentiate between those that tried it and those that were hooked on it. There was more evidence of Andy using more than what he admitted to, than there ever has been of A-Rod using more than he said he did.

      Remember, A-Rod was asked under penalty of law…so, if they had more evidence they would have put him away for a long time.

      Oh well, I guess fans will think and believe whatever they want to or read and believe everything in print.

  45. Ken…Aroid called…he doesn’t want you sticking up for him anymore…..he said he’s better off without you. :-(

  46. Andy Petite says “check your facts again ancientyankee13….. Where is the evidence I used more than I admitted to….. Show us the article….. “

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