Morning Bits: Tampa Rays, Pettitte, Post Season
Sticking with the old mug for good luck
Good morning all. Nice game for Hughes last night as he went deep in the game. The O’s won as well so nothing really changed in the standings. The O’s now go out to the West Coast to play Oakland. The Yankees will be start a new series tonight in the Bronx against the Rays. Tonight is an Ace pitching match-up. Price vs Sabathia. Game time is set for 7:05PMEST.
Enjoy the weekend now for some links…
– The ESPN Stats department takes a closer look as why Hughes won last night.
– Wallace Matthews of ESPN NY has the rapid reaction from last night’s game.
– Greg Zeck of MLB.com has tonight’s game preview.
– Bryan Hoch of MLB.com looks at the path to the post season for the bombers.
– The Daily News has the story of Andy Pettitte’s return for this upcoming Tuesday.
Posted on September 14, 2012, in Notes & Links and tagged Derek Jeter, New York Yankees. Bookmark the permalink. 13 Comments.
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This is a huge week for the Yankees. I know Baltimore keeps getting lucky but a West Coast trip to Oakland and then against Seattle with one game against King Felix ought to give us a shot to not only to go up on Baltimore but also to knock Tampa Bay back some more. We have only one 7 game road trip left. This 9 game home stand is a tremendous opportunity.
CC better pitch like an ace tonight! The Yankees really need him!
Delia I think its pretty obvious that CC has been affected by an elbow condition for most of the season that he has battled through. I’d be surprised if we see the “real CC” this season and would be even less surprised if he doesn’t require surgery at year’s end that may put him on the sidelines for most or all of next season.
I don’t think its a TJ case, but I’d guess he has chips in there that will have to be cleaned up. He may be taking cortisone shots that the Yankees certainly wouldn’t publicize. That rumor is out there, and where there is smoke there is fire. I believe Sherman had heard that and pressed Girardi about it in his office when they fought last week.
I’m not expecting much from CC from here on in.
YANKEES FACING YET ANOTHER LEFTEY TONIGHT IN PRICE,….
Jeter could use a decent 3 hit game tonight
if Jeter goes 3 for 4 tonight, his average will be 325.6579
if Trout goes 0 for 5 tonight, his average will be 327.9678
a difference of only 2.2099 points
Jeter is still in the batting title race,…. one good night for Jeter coupled with a bad night for Trout,.. can tighten the race up to where Jeter’s experience can win out against Trout’s youth.
right now,, there are only 12 players in the AL with a qualifying 300 batting average or higher.
Detroit has 3 players
Angels 2
Texas 2
Yankees, Twins, Whitesox, Royals, Redsox– each with one
6 teams in the AL do not have a qualifying 300 hitter right now — Baltimore, Tampa, Toronto, Cleveland, Oakland, Seattle
Having 300 hitters I guess is not as important in today’s game,…. baltimore, tampa, and oakland are all in contention without a qualifying 300 hitter
Pitching rules the day right now ( timely hitting doesnt hurt),… and I hope the Yankees have enough pitching to win the world series this year
JETER WATCH UPDATE
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Jeters hits by month for each month 1996 to august 2012 (march/april and sept/oct are counted as same) – 102 months 6 x 17
Jeter has had a 35+ hit month at least once every season—– and 40 times overall, 20 of those in August and September
1995— Jeter had 12 hits in 15 games – played in minors except fot 2 weeks end of may, and in september call ups
1996—20,,22,,29,,37,,39,,36,,
1997—34,,25,,33,,34,,35,,29,
1998—28,,44,,14,,40,,50,,27,,
1999—31,,40,,37,,38,,31,,42,,
2000—29,,15,,43,,34,,37,,43,,
2001—28,,34,,27,,40,,43,,19,,
2002—34,,36,,33,,27,,37,,24,,
2003— 1,,23,,30,,37,,39,,26,,
2004—16,,31,,36,,28,,33,,44,,,,
2005—31,,28,,33,,34,,40,,36,,
2006—35,,33,,28,,42,,36,,40,,
2007—32,,38,,35,,38,,31,,32,,
2008—26,,27,,33,,28,,39,,26,,
2009—27,,36,,27,,,40,,46,36,,,
2010—31,,36,,25,,26,,28,,33,,
2011—23,,34,,11,,26,,41,,27,,,
2012—37,,34,,26,,37,,43,,18* (19 games left to play)
JETERS GAMES 1995-PRESENT (THROUGH TEAM GAME 143 OF 2012)
NUMBER OF GAMES PER SEASON
HITLESS:: 5,,43,,45,,30,,23,,22,,41,,39,,21,,38,,37,,24,,3,1,37,,32,,42,,33,,27 = 580
1 HIT::8,,64,,57,,59,,68,,56,,51,,60,,53,,64,,60,,67,,64,,65,55,,62,,53,,55 = 1021
2 HITS :: 2,,33,,40,,41,,51,,40,,38,,44,,33,,33,,48,,43,,44,,32,,45,,43,,33,,41 = 684
3 HITS:: 0,,15,,15,,14,,15,,15,,17,,13,,11,,18,,11,,19,,14,,14,,17,,9,,7,,14 = 238
4 HITS:: 0,,2,,2,,5,,1,,5,,2,,1,,1,,1,,2,,1,,3,,2,,4,,1,3,,4 = 40
5 HITS:: 0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,1,,0,,0,,0,,1,,0,,0,,0,,0,,0,,2,,0 = 4
TOTAL GAMES = 2567
TOTAL HITS = 3283
TOTAL MULTI HIT GAMES = 966 (37.63% OF ALL GAMES)
TOTAL GAMES WITH A HIT = 1987 (77.41% OF ALL GAMES)
WITH 19 GAMES LEFT IN THE SEASON, JETER COULD REACH HIS 2000TH GAME WITH AT LEAST 1 HIT DURING THIS SEASON
I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE DID THAT?
RBI ANAYLSIS
51 players have had 1500+ RBIS , 3 of those players played this season— Arod, Thome, Chipper Jones
Of the 48 retired players with 1500+ RBIs , 36 are in the HOF
The 12 not in the HOF are ::
Bonds, Griffey Jr., Palmeiro, Manny Ramirez, Frank Thomas, Sheffield, Sosa, Baines, McGriff, Bagwell, Kent, Delgado
I still like Griffey Jr. and Baines for the HOF
Jeter has 1249 RBIs,…… does Jeter need 1500+ RBIs for the HOF?
Can Jeter get 251 more RBI over the next 21 games plus hopefully 6 more seasons?
Pujols is next active player up to reach 1500 RBI, he has 1425,……. Giambi wont reach 1500, he is at 1405, and this is probably it for him this year
There are 74 players with more RBIs than Jeter but less than 1500 RBIs, 1250 – 1499 RBI, 125th place to 52nd place
10 oth those 74 players played this season.
of the remaining 64 players only 29 are in the HOF
The following 35 players are retired (assuming Vlad is finished) have between 1250 -1499 RBI and not in the HOF
Vlad Guerrero, Dave Parker, Staub, Joe Carter, Luis Gozolez, Galarraga, McGuire, Canseco, Juan Gonzolez, Ted Simmons, Dwight Evans, Lave Cross, Chili Davis, Garret Anderson, Darrell Evans, Gary Gaettit, Piazza, Ivan Rodriguez, Al Oliver, Ruben Siera, Nettles, Rose, Mickey Vernon, Larry Walker, Garvey, Moises Alou, Del Ennis, Bon Johnson, Don Baylor, Gil Hodges, Tino Matinez, Pul Oneil, Dale Murphy, Edgar Martinez, Bernie Williams
That is a pretty good list of sluggers
I think Piaza will get in the HOF, and I stil like Staub and Hodges personally to get in.
But as we see, Jeter’s RBI total does not give him a LOCK to get in the HOF
So, Jeter being at 1249 RBI, 126th place all time—-
of the 125 players ahead of Jeter, 112 are retired
of those 112 players , 65 are in the HOF, 47 are not in the HOF.
1877-2102 is 136 official MLB seasons,….. to only have 125 players to have 1250+ RBI, that is less than one per season,… or about 1 per season if you take away the first 11 seasons, because no one could have had 1250 RBI before that.
Yet as we see,…. the VOTERS want to see something more out of those players that did not get in the Hall on that list.
Jeter clearly has done more, his total hits, and runs scored, should get him in the HOF.
But I feel players like Gil Hodges, Harold Baines,and Rusty Staub,…. brought play to their games, that should have also got them in the HOF.
The next players up to reach 1250 hits in the next coming seasons are:
Jeter 1249
Beltran 1233′
Aramis Ramirez 1213
Beltre 1205
Berkman 1200
Damon 1139 — may be finished
Torii Hunter 1127 – may not reach 1250
Ibanez 1107 – may not reaxh 1250
Miguel Cabrera 1102
Teizeira 1098
Soriano 1203
Dunn 1010
MIchael Young 979
Omar Vizquel 949— may be finished
no one under that will reach 1250 RBI by the end of 2014,…
depending on DL time and playing well,.. we might have up to 7 more platers between tonight and end of 2014 to break into the 1250 RBI club,.. that only 125 players in history have done
wlllie mays has 140 trillples, 523 doubles, 660 homers, 3283 hits, in 12496 plate appearances, in 2992 games, over 22 seasons of play
jeter has 65 tripples, 522 doubles, 255 homers, and 3283 hits, in 11806 plate appearaces over 17 seasons ( plus 1995)
So Jeter has the same amount of hits with 690 less plate appearances,….. that equates to about one full healthy season worth of plate appearances, Although it is 5 seasons faster than Mays
By the Time Jeter has 22 seasons in, 5 more,….. what he will have done in hits totals, and runs scored,… clearly will make up the difference to May’s home runs
This analysis is easy,….. if Jeter gets 800 hits over the next 5 seasons
I do this because you CAN analyze an all time power hitter to an all time non power hitter like Jeter, if they each have over 10,000 plate appearances,….because you can see if the non power hitter accomplished the non power stuff to a very high degree of excellance, to equate to the excellance of the all time power guy.
In this case, Jeter vs Mays, if Jeter can gets 800 hits over the next 5 seasons — mission accomplished.
He would be considdered as good a top of the lineup guy as Mays was a middle of the order guy
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