Morning Bits: Ichiro, Playoff Roster Predictions, & more…
Good Morning all. As the Yankees await who they will play I will provide you with some links this morning to get you through the day.
Enjoy the weekend!!!!
– Andrew Marchand looks into the meeting that changed it all for the Bombers. Marchand also takes a stab at who he thinks makes the playoff roster. See if you agree.
– Steven Miller writes that Ichiro has some unfinished business in the postseason.
– Bryan Hoch has 5 Keys for the Yankees in the postseason.
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Derek Jeter's MLB-leading 216 hits are 2nd most in history for a player in his age-38 or older season, behind Paul Molitor's 225 in 1996.—
New York Yankees (@Yankees) October 04, 2012
For context: Before the season, I picked Rays over D-Backs in the WS. Now, I'm picking the Yankees over the Reds. Sorry about that.—
Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) October 04, 2012
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if jeter gets 196 hits in 2013 and 197 hits in 2014,…he will only need to average 140 hits a season for 4 more seasons to break the all time hits record by 1 hit
he can do it,… and thus by virtue of getting on base with a hit 953 more times, he will get the 428 runs he needs to break the all time runs scored record
look at it this way—- jeter has 3304 hits / 1868 runs = 1.7687
so for every 1.7687 hits jeter gets , he scores a run
so if jeter gets 953 hits,, he will get 953/1,7687= 538.8 more runs
so there is even room there for pro rated fewer home runs for himself,.. and he should still make 428 more runs , if he gets 953 more hits
jeters averaging 70 walks a season over the past 17 seasons.
if we do it by hits and walks, 3304 + 1039 = 4343 hits and walks
so, 4343/1868 = 2.3249
so for every 2.3249 hits and walks jeter scores a run
so if jeter averages 40 walks a year for 6 more seasons only = 240 more walks
953 + 240 = 1193 more hits and walks
1193 / 2.3249 = 513 more runs
and that is reducing his walks from 70 a season career avg, to 40 a season over next 6 seasons’
the runs record is there to get, if he gets the hits record
and the 2 records are trending so close,….. i think it will merge, and be done on the same day, maybe even the same at bat, on August 29, 2018
arod has 1898 runs
arod has 2901 hits and 1217 walks
2901 + 1217 = 4118 hits and walks
4118 / 1898 = 2.1687
so for every 2.1687 hit and walk arod scores a run
if arod plays 5 more seasons and averages 120 hits per season and 50 walks a season that would be 850 more hits and walks
so, 850 more hits and walks
850 / 2.1687 = 392 more runs
1898 + 392 = 2290 = 5 short of henderson
factor also in the greatly reduced amount of home runs arod will get — I see it as very hard for arod to break the runs record
jeter on the other hand could do it,…. but credit would also go to teixeira, swisher, granderson, and cano , and partly arod——- on any other players that are big hitters that might replace one or two of those guys over the next 6 seasons
Please take a moment and look at these stats for these 2 retired players and answer the question
The following 2 players both played a total of 18 seasons,… the 11 consecutive seasons taken for the stats, are the same exact years for each player,… and both players werre team mates on the same team
question === are they both in the Hall of Fame,.. one of them , or neither of them?
and why
keep in my that the left hand batter would naturally have the higher batting average by virtue of mnore right handed pitching
11 consecutive seasons in the meat of an 18 year career – left handed batter
23 hr,,,, 92 rbi,, 100 runs,,, 292 avg
31 hr,,,, 107 rbi, 109 runs,,, 321 avg
29 hr,,,, 101 rbi,, 96 runs, ,,,277 avg
21 hr,,, 92 rbi,,,,,80 runs,,, 303 avg
42 hr,,,,,126 rbi,,,132 runs,, 336 avg
40 hr,,,, 130 rbi,,,120 runs,,, 341 avg
42 hr, ,,, 136 rbi,,,126 runs, 309 avg
43 hr,,,,, 101 rbi,,112 runs,,,,292 avg
40 hr,,,,,,,,92 rbi,,,,91 runs,,,,,274 avg
15 hr,,,,,, 58 rbi,…45 runs,…,312 avg
23 hr, ,,,,,,88 rbi, 59 runs,,,, 308 avg
=11 seasons, 349 hr, 1123 rbi, 1070 runs, 306 avg
11 consecutive seasons in the meat of an 18 year career- right handed bnatter
23 hr,,,, 115 rbi,,,,, 94 runs;;;,,,285 avg
32 hr,,,,,113 rbi,,,,98 runs,,;;;,,283 avg
40 hr,,,,,103 rbi,,,,118 runs,;;;,,268 avg
32 hr,,,,,102 rbi,,,,,87 runs,,;;,,254 avg
31 hr,,,,,122 rbi,,,,,101 runs,;, 302 avg
42 hr,,,,,130 rbi,,,,,,106 runs,,;304 avg
27 hr,,,,,102 rbi,,,, ,75 runs,,;;,289 avg
32 hr,,,, ,87 rbi,,,;;;;,,86 runs,,,,265 avg
27 hr,,,,,,98 rbi,,,,;;,94 runs,,,,299 avg
22 hr,,,,,,64 rbi,,,,;;,,68 runs,,,,259 avg
25 hr,,,,,,80 rbi,,,,,;;,,57 runs,,,276 avg
= 11 seasons, 333 homers, 1116 rbi, 984 runs, 281 avg —
keep in my also,.. the righty batted,… behind the lefty,….. so often many times the leftey had cleared the bases leaving no rbi opportunity for the righty.
thats what they call protecting the batter in the order
Fish i saw this about your Favorite non Yankee. Check it out. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/10/padres-could-extend-chase-headley.html
Would have loved to have snapped him up a year ago before this year’s breakout. Now after leading the league with 115 RBIs and hitting 31 HRs in the biggest pitcher’s park in baseball, San Diego can name their price if they trade him.
Yanks also should have re-signed Cano last yr before his career yr this year. They could have rolled this year and next year’s cheap options into the extension to save money in the AAV of the deal which is crucial to the Luxury tax.
http://yankeesfansunite.com/2012/02/29/cashman-talking-extension-with-wrong-yankee/
no one even wants to guess who the players were?
Here is the list of the top 150 hits leaders, re-oranzied to show how many 150+ hit seasons each player had
86 of the players are in the HOF, 64 are not,….. 10 of those 64 players saw plate appearances this season,….that leaves 54
vlad guerro and manny ramirez last plate appearaces were in 2011
a few others are retired and have not came up for vote yet
the top 150 all time hits leaders have 2276 to 4256 hits
the list encompses most the greats of the game from 1877 to present
having a player like jeter, to get so many seasons of 150 plus hits is rare in the history of MLB
rose—18
cobb—18
speaker—18
Jeter —17
aaron—17
wagner—16
musial—15
colins—15
ripken—15
murray—14
waner—-14
gwynn—14
sam crawford—-14
george sisler—–14
goose goslin—–14
yastrzemski—13
molitor—13
mays—–13
lajoie—-13
biggio—-13
carew—13
gehrig—–13
brock—-13
palmerio—13
sam rice—13
keeler—13
hornsby—-13
franky frisch—-13
jessee burkett—–13
harry heilmann—–13
richie asburn——-13
george van haltren——13
clemente—12
jake beckley—12
al simmons—12
damon—-12
arod—–12
mel ott—-12
charlie gehringer—–12
roberto alomar—–12
billy williams—–12
doc cramer——12
nellie fox——-12
jimmie fox——12
ichiro suzuki—–12
vlad guerrero——12
joe medwick——12
bobby abreu——-12
pie traynor——–12
brett butler———-12
jeff bagwell———12
brett—-11
winnfield—11
yount—-11
boggs—–11
zack wheat—-11
babe ruth—–11
brooks robinson—–11
appling—–11
staub ——-11
dave parker—–11
ed delahanty—–11
ernie banks——-11
manny ramirez——11
garret anderson——11
todd helton——–11
stuffy mcinnis———11
ryne sandberg——–11
miguel tejada———11
orlando cepeda——-11
billy herman———–11
kirby puckett—–11
hugh duffy—–11
omar vizquel—–10
andre dawson—–10
pinson—10
al oliver—-10
tony perez—-10
chipper jones—–10
ted williams—— 10
steve garvey——10
julio franco——–10
willie davis——10
fred mcgriff——10
heinie manush—–10
buddy belll —— 10
jim rice——–10
red schoendienst—–10
mark grace—–10
joe cronin——–10
anson—9
kaline—9
frank roninson—9
buckner—-9
sheffield——9
frank clarke—–9
luis apracio—-9
max varvey—-9
mickey vernon—-9
ted simmons——9
lloyd waner——-9
enos slaughter—–9
ed roush———–9
bernie williams —-9
edgar renteria—–9
Jack Daubert—–9
jim bottomley—–9
charlie grimm—-9
dan brouthers——9
baines—-8
griffey jr——8
lave cross—-8
tim raines——-8
luis gonzalez—–8
steve finley——-8
jimmy ryan——-8
frank thomas —–8
harry hooper——-8
kenny lofton——8
mantle————–8
sammy sosa——8
joe judge—–8
kiki cuyler——-8
tony fernandez—-8
barry bonds—7
irod—–7
joe morgan—–7
roger connor—–7
jeff kent—-7
alan trammell—–7
joe torre——-7
barry larkin ———-7
andres galarraga——7
dave concepcion—–7
henderson—6
george davis—–6
rabbit maranville—-6
reggie jackson——6
ozzy smith ——6
lou whitaker———6
bj surhoff————6
eddie matthews—-6
jim o’rourke—–5
dwights evans—–5
chili davis———5
bobby wallace ——5
bill dahlen——-4
jim thome——–4
gary gaetti——3
carlton fisk——–2
Here is the list of the top 200 hits leaders, re-oranzied to show how many 150+ hit seasons each player had– 1877 through the 2012 season
the top 200 all time hits leaders have 2143 to 4256 hits
even though i have now went down to through the top 200 hit getters, i still do not have all the greats of the game, some hall of fame hitters are still not on the on the list
you can look and find all your great players from any era….. this is fun stuff
rose—18
cobb—18
speaker—18
Jeter —17
aaron—17
wagner—16
musial—15
colins—15
ripken—15
murray—14
waner—-14
gwynn—14
sam crawford—-14
george sisler—–14
goose goslin—–14
yastrzemski—13
molitor—13
mays—–13
lajoie—-13
biggio—-13
carew—13
gehrig—–13
brock—-13
palmerio—13
sam rice—13
keeler—13
hornsby—-13
franky frisch—-13
jessee burkett—–13
harry heilmann—–13
richie asburn——-13
george van haltren——13
clemente—12
jake beckley—12
al simmons—12
damon—-12
arod—–12
mel ott—-12
charlie gehringer—–12
roberto alomar—–12
billy williams—–12
doc cramer——12
nellie fox——-12
jimmie fox——12
ichiro suzuki—–12
vlad guerrero——12
joe medwick——12
bobby abreu——-12
pie traynor——–12
brett butler———-12
jeff bagwell———12
patsy donavan——12
albert pujols———12
brett—-11
winnfield—11
yount—-11
boggs—–11
zack wheat—-11
babe ruth—–11
brooks robinson—–11
appling—–11
staub ——-11
dave parker—–11
ed delahanty—–11
ernie banks——-11
manny ramirez——11
garret anderson——11
todd helton——–11
stuffy mcinnis———11
ryne sandberg——–11
miguel tejada———11
orlando cepeda——-11
billy herman———–11
kirby puckett—–11
hugh duffy—–11
michael young——-11
paul konerko———-11
omar vizquel—–10
andre dawson—–10
pinson—10
al oliver—-10
tony perez—-10
chipper jones—–10
ted williams—— 10
steve garvey——10
julio franco——–10
willie davis——10
fred mcgriff——10
heinie manush—–10
buddy belll —— 10
jim rice——–10
red schoendienst—–10
mark grace—–10
joe cronin——–10
joe dimaggio——10
bill terry———–10
billy hamilton——10
anson—9
kaline—9
frank roninson—9
buckner—-9
sheffield——9
frank clarke—–9
luis apracio—-9
max varvey—-9
mickey vernon—-9
ted simmons——9
lloyd waner——-9
enos slaughter—–9
ed roush———–9
bernie williams —-9
edgar renteria—–9
Jack Daubert—–9
jim bottomley—–9
charlie grimm—-9
dan brouthers——9
carlos lee——–9
joe sewell——9
willie wilson——9
stan hack——–9
keith hernandez—–9
magglio ordonez—–9
don mattingly——-9
baines—-8
griffey jr——8
lave cross—-8
tim raines——-8
luis gonzalez—–8
steve finley——-8
jimmy ryan——-8
frank thomas —–8
harry hooper——-8
kenny lofton——8
mantle————–8
sammy sosa——8
joe judge—–8
kiki cuyler——-8
tony fernandez—-8
jose cruz———-8
edgar martinez—–8
joe kuhel———–8
jason kendall—-8
joe carter———-8
dick bartell——-8
ken boyer———-8
barry bonds—7
irod—–7
joe morgan—–7
roger connor—–7
jeff kent—-7
alan trammell—–7
joe torre——-7
barry larkin ———-7
andres galarraga——7
dave concepcion—–7
willie mcgee———7
ron santo———–7
bert campaneris——-7
john olerud———-7
fred tenney——–7
andrian beltre——-7
joe kelley———–7
cecil cooper——7
will clark———-7
pww wee reese——7
larry walker——–7
hal chase———
henderson—6
george davis—–6
rabbit maranville—-6
reggie jackson——6
ozzy smith ——6
lou whitaker———6
bj surhoff————6
eddie matthews—-6
marquis grissom—-6
mike schmidt——-6
willie randolph——6
larry bowa———-6
sherry magee——-6
ruben sierra———6
ed konetchy——–6
jim o’rourke—–5
dwights evans—–5
chili davis———5
bobby wallace ——5
tommy corcoran—–5
wllie stargel———–5
ken griffey sr.———-5
tommy leach———5
bill dahlen——-4
jim thome——–4
bid mcphee——4
craig nettles——4
yogi berra——–4
gary gaetti——3
willie mccovey——3
carlton fisk——–2
jimmy dykes——2
darrell evans——1
looking further down the list,….. a plsayer like maury wills is not in the hall of fame, but he had 11-150 hit seasons, he sits at 205th place all time with 2134 hits
there are 9 hall of famers who are currently between 201st to 250th place on the all time hits list
they are duke snider, monte ward, gary carter, arky vaughan, harmon killebrew, chuck klein, george kell, johnny bench, and bobby doerr
Tthe lowest hit getter in the top 1000 hit leaders of all time, to be in the HALL OF FAME,, is Roy Campanella,…..he played 10 seasons, 1948-1957, all on the brooklyn dodgers,.. he is 997th on the list with 1161 hits
However, he won 3 MVP’S , 1951,53, and 55,….. on a team with duke snider and gil hodges ( hint hint)
he was inducted in 1969 with 270 of 340 ballots
1953 was the monster year with 143 rbi’s
i know he was a catcher and got extra consideration
he played in 5 post seasons — all world series, winning 1, all against the yankees
I still believe Gil Hodges deserves to be in the hall of fame ( hint hint)
Gil batted behind duke in the order, most often, and made it possible for duke and roy to do what they did,.. while still putting up 11 great seasons in a row,…right aside duke snider
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but roy campanella gets in the hof based on the 3 mvp’s
one day gil hodges and maurry wills will be corrected i believe
Jim2244..
One big reason Roy got into the HoF was his injury, he became a paraplegic. With his numbers up to that point, being so great, than to be cut down in the prime of life, was one of the reasons.
I think it took him about 10 years to make it. Sometimes numbers don’t count as much as the individual who puts up the numbers. He and Yogi were the only catchers that counted, back in those days but, I can’t think of his name, but there was another catcher (John Roseboro) that took over for him, not as good…he was more a defensive catcher.
In today’s game, Ty Cobb would be kicked out pf baseball. Teddy Ballgame would have been nailed to the cross by the media and bloggers. Times, they are different, aren’t they.
1951
roy campanella 164 hits, 90 runs, 108 rbi, 33 homers, 325 avg—MVP-1
gil hodges 156 hits, 118 runs, 103 rbi, 40 homers, 268 avg–MVP-16
duke snider 168 hits, 96 runs, 101 rbi, 29 homers, 277 avg—MVP-not in top 25
1953
roy campanella 162 hits, 103 runs, 142 rbi, 41 homers, 312 avg—- MVP-1
gil hodges 157 hits, 101 runs, 122 rbi, 31 homers, 302 avg—-MVP-14
duke snider 198 hits, 132 runs, 126 rbi, 42 homers, 336 avg–MVP- -3
1955
roy campanella 142 hits, 81 runs, 107 rbi, 32 homers, 318 avg—-MVP-1
gil hodges 158 hits, 75 runs, 102 rbi, 27 homers, 289 avg—-MVP-not in top 25
duke snider 166 hits, 126 runs, 136 rbi, 42 homers, 309 avg–MVP-2
As I did way above in this blog today,… I put up Duke Sniders and Gil Hodges numbers for the same 11 seasons,,1949-1959– and this is up for everyone to compare
Gil Hodges has got to be the closest player not in the HOF, the DESERVES TO BE IN THE HOF
look at the post way above today in this thread,.. the right handed hitter is hodges, the left handed hitter is duke snider
what hodges did,, along side Duke Snider, as teammates,…, going to 6 world series in those .11 seasons,, plus also in 1947, for 7
the first 6 against the yankees
winning 2 world series, 1955, and in LA in 1959
everything thrown in,….
Gil Hodges should be in the hall of fame
i am not making this up,.. millions and milions of fans know it
Jim – Please slow down with the MASSIVE lists. They make scrolling through the comments extremley cumbersome. if we want to look up pages of #s we can go to Baseball Reference.
I agree!
Doug whats your lineup in the playoffs vs RH and LH pitchers in the playoffs.
RHP – Jeter, Ichiro, Cano, ARod, Tex, Grandy, Swisher, Ibanez, Martin.
LHP- Jeter, Swisher, Cano, ARod, Tex, Grandy, Martin, Nunez, Ichiro.
Nunez Swisher Martin
actually, no you cant, i painstakingly went through the list and counted each players seasons of 150 hits by hand— you can not get what i compiled that easily, without doing it yourself– but i have already done it for you– took me hours and hours of my time
and still no one really seems to comment on those lists.
no one has to comment on this list,.. i was really looking for a comment once again on gil hodges,….as i put up hodges vs duke snider, 1949-1959,…….. and the stats are real close
it happens to be the top 11 seasons of each career as well
again though Jim the lists every day are getting stale. maybe once and awhile ok. But not 7 posts of them everyday.
well, granted i shouldnt have put up the 150 top list, i shoulda just donme the top 200 list,….
but it is still important to see tghe difference as to the HOF
baseball changed after worl war 2
we have a few months to hall of fame voting now, once again
the bbwaa used to oplook highly on batting average,… and at the time they couldnt see the firest before the trees as the gil hodges, or however that saying goes
the fact is gil hodges should be in the hall of fame
based on the fact his rbi, runs, and homers, were practiclly the same as the left handed duke snider, on the same team, for those 11 easons, 1949-1959,..
and snider is in the hof
Well now we ALL have to PAINSTAKINGLY scroll through all this clutter to read comments on the Yankees…..the reason the rest of us are here for.
It’s going to hurt our hits Fish, probably already has. I don’t care if someone posts 100 responses on the same thread so long as they are arguing back and forth with people. That’s why people come to these places. Jim, you’re a great guy, love your passion and your spirit but we have been growing and growing in terms of Twitter and facebook followers as well as hits to the site and the lists and non stop Jeter talk is preventing people from making comments on meaningful discussions.
Jim, the season is going to be over in less than a month. From November-March there is nothing to talk about except the debates and stats, etc. We could certainly use your spirited commentary then more than now, when actual baseball is being played including the Yankees in the playoffs. How about it Jim? Could you please help us out here?
lol,.. you are like a politician, that doesnt want certain forms of numbers to come to light,lol,….
i put together the list, on my own, and that is the list,…..
now i can examine it, judge it, make inquiries as to it,.. look at the hof players vs non hall of famne players,…
and go in any direction my mind takes me as to the stats
and i find it fascinating
believe it or not,…… their have been very few great hitters in the hgistory of mlb compared to the number oif hitters that put on a MLB uniform in thier lives
i have a email into baseball reference.com to find out just how mant hitters, non-pitchers, have worn an mlb uniform,
it is probably well over 20,000 players
maybe 1-2% of them have been truly great in one way or another
and dont think this doesnt go the the yankees—– michael kay has had mrs robinson in the booth during a telecast more than once , on or close to jackie robinson day,…… and every time mrs robinson makes it a —— gil hodges should be in the hall of fame with his team mates
and she is not only saying it cause gil was a great player in his time,.. but because he was a great man,… that protected jackie,…..
and mrs ronbinson would know the truth
we , baseball fans, only hae to convince like 3 people on the veterans committee to change their vote, and vote for gil hodges
in order to do that,.. fans all across america need to use social media,.. to overwhelme the markerplace with a groundswell of information.
we have to get gil hodges into the hall of fame
and it only makes the yankees look better,.. to have played all those world series against another hall of famer, and won
HERE IS MY HYPOTHESESIS I AM GOING TO PROVE—– based on gil hodges top 11 seasons, 1949-1959,… taking into account ewhnen he played, the natiuonal league, what happened anbd what didnt happen—- against all time 1877-present—— that Gil Hodges is within the top 1 percent of gretest 11 consecutive seasons of all time for any right handed hitter,
and thguis deserves to be in the hall of fame
again to multiple millions of people it is a no-brainer
we only have to convince 3 more voters on the 15 man veterans comittee to change their minds, to get 12 of the 15
we are talking about one of the greratest players of all time
the duke had great seasons,.. who was batting behind him in the lineup,….. GIL HODGES
I KNOW MY BASEBALL
HODGES IN MY OPINION WAS THE more feared and more deadly hitter than the duke,….. even with a righty on the mound,….. they went after duke, who crushed the ball, hoping he wouldnt,….. becausae gil hodges was right behind him
jim, I agree Hodges should be a HOFer.
jim, so should Albert Bell, that’s why I don’t like the writers picking them!